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> Курсы Cisco, Есть, ли интерес?????
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 8:40
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Вот, стало интересно, много ли людей захочет пройти курс CISCO(версия CCNA) в Симферополе????? Да именно в Симферополе!!! И нужно, ли это для Симферополя в целом???


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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 9:47
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а сколько денег стоит?


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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 16:21
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думаю что достаточно, если их будут читать специалисты ....
а не сделают из ТНУ - Cisco Academy
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 16:56
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Необходимость в таких курсах определяется совокупностью факторов:

Вариант 1
Наличие гос организаций и др предприятий, использующих в своей работе оборудование CISCO в большом количестве + Готовность таких организаций заплатить деньги за обучение админов

Вариант 2
Физ лица, готовые заплатить из собственного кармана за повышения своей квалификации в технологии работы с CISCO

Вариант 3
Фирмы занимающиеся продажей оборудования CISCO, желающие обучить своих специалистов
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 17:03
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CCNA у Золотых партнеров Циско стоит 2675 грн за неделю или около того



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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 17:31
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ну Укртелеком вроде своих админов натаскивал в Киеве ...

хотя любые курсы только в плюс, расширяет кругозор ....
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 18:21
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Я бы с удовольствием расширял свой кругозор... При ценах на порядок хотя бы ниже smile.gif Готов поспорить, что Person'ов Вариант 2 в Симферополе не актуален cool.gif Третий, пожалуй, тоже. Насчет первого не могу судить, нет информации. Лично я с такими предприятиями и организациями не сталкивался. Те, что я знаю, предпочитают оборудование попроще CISCO и спецов подешевле CCNA rolleyes.gif


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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 18:46
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Я же и говорю, что подобные курсы в Симферополе в ближайшие лет пять точно не приживутся.

Дешевле курсы проводить не станут, а подобную сумму мало кто согласится выложить.
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 19:15
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ну курсы то еще не все, надо сдать экзамены сертификационные
ну например CCNA
Cisco Systems, Inc. 640-801 Cisco Certified Network Associate 110$

или
Cisco Systems, Inc. 640-811 Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices 80$
Cisco Systems, Inc. 640-821 INTRO 95$

хотя например Microsoft MCP - 330 грн
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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 20:05
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Если бы от этого была реальная польза, я бы сам заплатил за экзамены. Пока же MCP в Симферополе пригодится куда больше CISCO. ИМХО. Хотя, конечно, если планируешь менять дислокацию на места более цивилизованные, тогда да.


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Дата 18 Марта, 2005, 20:36
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про запас ....
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Дата 20 Марта, 2005, 14:48
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/me потратился бы на авторизированые курсы от цыски $100-150.

мелкософт - ф сад. wink.gif


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Дата 20 Марта, 2005, 15:07
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ну это уже шовинизм, я не сторонник MS , но вынужден признать, что знание core base via MS - просто правила хорошего тона для специалиста, который акцентирует разноплановый подход к решению задач ...
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Дата 21 Марта, 2005, 10:42
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В отношении MS часто речь идет не об обучении, а о подтверждении знаний в виде экзамена, который, кстати, можно сдать экстерном за относительно разумные бабки. 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Одного, двоих... Даже десятерых - это не потребность. Кому очень надо, в Киев отправят, а чтобы курсыурсыурсыурсыурсыурсыурсы оправдались, нужна пусть и небольшая, но ПОСТОЯННАЯ потребность в специалистах. Что, курсыурсыурсыурсыурсыурсыазначейство курсыурсыурсыурсыурсыурсыаждый год курсыурсыурсыурсыурсыурсыадры меняет?


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согласна, мы тоже своих в Киев делигировали.
Что касается Академии Циско на базе ТНУ, то почему бы и нет, вроде речь шла о том, что инструктора будут варяги, а не преподы с матфака (не в обиду матфаку). Тем более, что у нас с Вами не один Симферополь, есть же и другие города Крыма и раз Циско на это идет, значит с нашего региона многие едут учиться.


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Сил мне, чтобы изменить то, что не приемлю, и принять то, что не могу изменить, а также разума, чтобы отличить одно от другого!
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Что, казначейство каждый год кадры меняет?

поверь моему отпыту, даже чаще!
примерно 18 процентов состава ежегодно сменяется!!!

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корешка одного моего гос.казначейство само отправляло в киев на обучение

Такое обучение не было связанно с CISCO, все больше CA, HP, Symantec и Oracle.
А поездка связанная с CISCO была только на семинар CISCO Expo2003.
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примерно 18 процентов состава ежегодно сменяется!!!
Тогда есть смысл организовать курсы спешиал для госказначейства!


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Тогда есть смысл организовать курсы спешиал для госказначейства

а сколько то специалистов надо подобной конторе ? ну один-два, да и то вряд ли... наверняка оборудование поступает и настраивается централизованно из Киева, и не трогается годами, нет изменений в топологии и функциональности ...
Думаю что госорганизации не показательны в этом случае.
Сам долгое время работал в такой ....

и как показатель текучки кадров , реноме начальника не трогать оборудование - справедливо ... , а учится? пусть на кошках ....
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Курсы будут проходить на базе Таврического Национального Университета. Цена 10 грн. за час. К примеру 1 семестр обучения 48 часов, следовательно 480 грн. В течении семестра сдаються тесты, и в конце каждого семестра экзамен(это проходит в Симферополе). Курс состоит из 4 семестров, по окончании каждого семестра выдаеться свидетельство. По окончании курса выдаеться свидетельство о прохождении курса CCNA, которое дает право сдават финальный экзамен в Киеве на присвоение степени.


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